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Head in the Clouds

El Capitan in the clouds at sunset Saturday, February 23.  What a fun visit to Yosemite last week +Lori Hibbett and I had… running into +Elizabeth Hahn on the way to the Yosemite Renaissance show, meeting +G Dan Mitchell and catching up with +Franka M. Gabler, +David Hoffman, +Michael Frye and +Claudia Welsh there, shooting with +Joe Azure +Michael Bonocore +Casey McCallister at Sentinel Bridge, running into +Jean Day there as well, then shooting sunset with +Daniel Leu +Amal Zerrouki +Paule Merlin.  Apparently we were shooting near +G Dan Mitchell at one point but didn't know it, then +Aaron Meyers the next morning, just missed +Matt Granz a while later, then +Alexis Coram after that.  If I'm not mistaken, +Mark Meyer and +Sathish Jothikumar were in the park that February 22-24 weekend as well!  

G+ needs a feature which lets us designate circles for a "There's someone in your circle within 100 yards of you" notification.

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47 thoughts on “Head in the Clouds”

  1. That would be a great feature! But it needs to work whether or not you have cell reception.

    Great seeing you guys again, and love the clouds over El Capitan, even if it blocked HorseTail.

  2. Good to see you and the others in The Valley last weekend. Seemed like everyone showed up… except the sun! No matter, I had a great time photographing clouds and fog and mist. 🙂

  3. I've been wanting "untethered" operation allowed for +Google Earth for years +Elizabeth Hahn, and that would allow +The Photographer's Ephemeris to run far more places in Yosemite Valley.  
    For the "tell me when my circle contacts are near me" feature I'd like to see +Google add to Google+, perhaps we could set the wi-fi IDs on our phones to something identifiable by Google+ (our 21 digit G+ ID perhaps), so the app might detect when we get within 100-200 yards of each other even when we had no cell service, and even if we don't all have GPS features turned on (I prefer to have mine switched off).

    Assuming 100% connection to "The Cloud" is a fine vision for the future, perhaps a couple of decades from now, but it's an unrealistic and unnecessarily limiting restriction to place on general purpose applications today (outside of high speed corporate networks with extremely high uptime) given the poor state of wireless network connectivity in the United States (and the poor availability and adoption of broadband in rural areas, even in homes).  There's a big difference between leading edge and bleeding edge.

  4. It would be nice to have a feature similar to "Check In" on Facebook, where you can unpretentiously connect with people. I would like this to be somewhat selective- so one can choose to see only the people from certain circles, not everyone on G+ who happens to be at the particular location.
    By the way, beautiful image +jeff sullivan!

  5. Didn't TPE just have an update to run off of GPS instead of cell signal?

    I have used Google Latitude, but lately am hooked on Glympse, its far more flexible. But both require cell service. 🙁

  6. Well, if you wouldn't insist on photographing such remote locations, +Jeff Sullivan, you wouldn't have such difficulty. Catch 22 =).

    I have to look at TPE, but I thought my version (purchased recently) had a feature that would store map data so you could pull it up offline. You'd have to plan ahead, but I think you do anyway. ;).

  7. +William Johnston – My "sun" comment was pretty much tongue in cheek. The truth is that I prefer winter for shooting in Yosemite largely because there is much less "sunny" weather! 🙂 (I've posted some photographs from this same weekend, with more to come – and I don't think a single one is exactly sunny.)

    About "location" apps and such… I'm with +Franka M. Gabler on not wanting to automatically reveal too much about my location. Sometimes I would like to know who among my friends is around, but I'm not so such about publicizing my location too openly. Often I prefer to work in solitude!

  8. I double-checked TPE, and it looks like you can store OpenCycleTopo and Mapquest maps offline, but not Google maps. Not sure if this is a licensing or technical issue. I'll have to go somewhere off the grid to try it out. Hmm.

  9. I'm in complete agreement +Franka M. Gabler +G Dan Mitchell and +Elizabeth Hahn, I want to know when people are nearby, even with the GPS on my smart phone turned off.  I can then perhaps choose to look for them or (if we have some connectivity to communicate) meet them at a well known rendezvous point.  

    The process would have to be opt-in/voluntary on both sides, and for it to be useful for photography, any decisions made by the application would have to be biased towards privacy/non-disclosure.

    A recent post I made in the new Southern California Photography community on G+ re-stated my opinion on site disclosure by photographers:

    _It's just common courtesy to allow the photographer posting a photo not to disclose the location if they preferred not to do so up front.  

    Site disclosure can trash a place.  It's not uncommon for events in Yosemite which used to attract a handful of photographers to now attract 300 or more.  It's been sobering to watch the change, even just over the past 3-4 years as more photographers share images online.  Thank goodness the National Park Service has rangers and traffic control staff; not every site has that or can handle too much love.  So even once the book is out, I'll ask readers to consider carefully how specifically a given photo should be named, tagged or mapped.

    You can map and name popular vista points like Valley View in Yosemite all you want; it's built for the traffic.  For other sites I won't tell you what to decide, just consider that your decision and example may influence others, and that may determine how crowded or trampled the next two dozen sites you visit are.

    Before I agreed to write a guide book to California landscape photography locations, I verified that I'd be allowed to leave certain sensitive locations out: archaeological sites, sites which would impact nesting birds and endangered wildlife, places where a flood of photographers would leave scars on delicate land.  I hope that I make reasonable decisions, and that I can influence others to do the same, so that the natural places we love to shoot in will continue to offer us what we're there to find.

    I just deleted that post, because the few words in the caption under the person's photo I forwarded give away enough information to identify the site.  My mistake for not being more careful; fortunately it was hidden off in a G+ community (and not posted and tagged for easy discovery in a place like Flickr).

  10. Beautiful picture.  Thanks.  I've never been there in the winter only summer, a very long time ago, then more recently in early fall.  I've always thought that winter or very early spring would be fantistic at Yosemite but then I don't think there is a time when it is not!!  I try to pick times when I think there will not be hordes of people.

  11. +Jeff Sullivan – You may know that I've become a bit of a crusader for being more circumspect about revealing locations – and I'm pleased to see that you seem to have some of the same attitudes. 

    I think that people often don't quite understand the individual and collective effect of saying too much about certain places. I know I didn't before a friend "called me out" on an eastern Sierra shoot a few years ago. Heck, Mike still patiently tried to make me think more carefully about this! (The original story is posted here: http://www.gdanmitchell.com/2010/07/03/how-much-information-is-too-much-information) He was concerned that I had been too specific about locations in many cases where a) the specificity was not really necessary in order to appreciate the photograph and b) the locations were fragile and subject to damage or loss if too many visited. 

    (As a result I eventually removed an extensive guide to Death Photography that used to be at my blog.)

    "Back in the day" we (mostly) shared information about places and subjects all the time – but it was how we shared that was different. We told friends, perhaps we mentioned something in a face to face meeting, or perhaps a very few people wrote books whose distribution was relatively limited. In the end, it was unlikely that the information got to people whose intentions concerned us.

    The internet has changed everything. First, many more people see beautiful photographs of special places. Secondly, many more people are not only sharing photographs but also telling their stories of these places – for reasons that range from altruistic to self-aggrandizing. Third, all of this information gets captured, cataloged, and made available for search. I first saw the effect perhaps five or six years ago when hordes of photographers who followed certain wildflower reports hit a critical mass and started to show up in huge numbers, sometimes trespassing, creating use trails through pristine areas, and leaving behind trash… all to make the same photographs of the same subjects. (I do understand the desire and even the need to photograph the iconic subjects, but that doesn't lessen my concerns.)

    But it isn't just photographers any more. A recent and well-publicized story about the removal of petroglyphs from a California site reminded us that sensitive and thoughtful photographers are not the only people using the net to locate valuable stuff – disgusting cretins and thieves are, too. And when we share the sorts of information that we so casually shared with friends and acquaintances in a previous era, we now are sharing it with orders of magnitude larger groups of people and with people we would never tell about such fragile and sensitive places. 

    I don't believe (in most cases, but there are obvious exceptions) that it is always wrong to reveal locations. Certainly, when the location isn't all that fragile and when it is already well-known and when knowing the name of the place is actually important to understanding the photograph, secrecy isn't called for. But in almost all other cases, dialing back the specificity is going to be a good and necessary thing for all of us.

    And, in the end, it is actually good for aspiring photographers, too. The sooner they move beyond the goal of trying to make another "me too" photograph of a famous object and begin to slow down, look around, and really start to "see," the sooner they will being to enjoy even greater rewards from their photographic journey.

  12. I agree with you when you talk about the beauty of nature , that's why I said the photo was beautiful because the mountains are beautiful . yes they can be dangerous as the time the weather can change so quickly . it is like the sea it's beautiful and can be so dangerous .

  13. +elisabeth tubaut   That's what makes living in the mountains a great time for me  Like the weather in Texas (where I grew up)  you  never know what you will run into on any given day … the first time that I spent in my valley it caught me in a blizzard and took me two days to get home

  14. I never lived that kind of situation , but I am from the north of Brittanny in france , along the coast . I have often been the witness of big changes in the weather , in the sea .Everything can change three or four times in a day you can never have a precise weather forecast .now I live in the Loire Valley , it's so quiet  in comparison !!!  except when we have big storms !! so you see every country ,every region has its own features . here it's 8 pm so I am going to have dinner so I wish you a good evening

  15. Jeff – beautiful shot! Looks like some great weather you had there.

    TPE will run offline on iOS devices – we added offline map support a few months ago. I'd love it if Google Maps would allow offline caching too, but currently they do not. However, we have OpenCycleMap Topographic maps which do, and they work very well for places like Yosemite.

    +Andrew Wisler I presume it's a licensing issue with Google and Apple maps: there's no technical reason the map tiles couldn't be stored on the device.

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